Podcaster Joe Rogan called The View a “rage-infested chicken coop” after one of its hosts described a black author as a “charlatan” and “pawn of the right.”
Coleman Hughes was scolded by co-host Sunny Hostin when he appeared on the daytime talk show last week to promote his new book.
The CNN analyst wrote in The End of Race Politics: Arguments for a Colorblind America that people should not define themselves by their race.
But Hostin criticized his book’s thesis as “fundamentally flawed” and “something that the right has co-opted.”
“Many in the black community… believed that the right is using you as a pawn and that you are some kind of charlatan,” he said.
Podcaster Joe Rogan called The View a “rage-infested chicken coop” after one of its hosts called a black author a “charlatan” and a “pawn of the right.”
Coleman Hughes looks bemused as co-host Sunny Hostin dresses him up when he appeared on The View last week to promote his new book.
Hughes, an independent who voted Democratic, defended his stance against the dictates of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DEI) and appeared to have the support of the studio audience, who applauded many of his responses.
Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar also behaved respectfully toward him, and Goldberg was apparently willing to provide additional historical context to explain why some people believe DEI measures are useful in combating racism.
On Wednesday, he went on Rogan’s podcast and spent part of the three-hour interview addressing the live clash with Hostin.
Rogan dismissed The View as a “rage-infested chicken coop” that frequently goes viral when its hosts say “ridiculous things” that viewers “love to hate.”
He added that Hostin seemed smart on the panel, but was “ideologically captured” and part of a program that operates in a “very specific ideological bubble.”
Hughes said he didn’t really know who Hostin was before appearing on the show and didn’t expect his character to be attacked on air.
“I wasn’t necessarily expecting her to try to ambush me like that and attack my character like that,” he said.
“I responded at the time like I do, and I didn’t expect it to go as viral as it did, but I think you could say it went more viral than anything I’ve ever done.”
Hostin criticized his book’s thesis as “fundamentally flawed” and “something that the right has co-opted.”
Hostin also accused Hughes of being “a conservative,” stating that he identified himself as such in another interview and doubled down when he corrected her.
“I don’t think there’s any evidence that anyone co-opted me and I think that’s an ad hominem tactic that people use to not really address the important conversations we’re having here,” he responded.
“I think it’s better and it would be better for everyone if we stuck to the issues instead of talking about me without any evidence that I’ve been co-opted.”
He said he was an independent who had only voted twice, both for Democrats, and could have supported a “compelling” Republican against Biden, but not against Trump.
Hughes told Rogan that he thought the interview went viral because “very rarely do you see someone take a character attack, calmly state it as evidence-free, and then just get back on topic.”
Hughes also argued that point with racket newssaying that it was clear that Hostin “had no idea what he was talking about.”
“I know (Hostin) said I identified as conservative, which surprised me because unless I blacked out, I don’t remember,” he said.
‘She was very sure of it. I almost got burned by gas. I was like, ‘Did I forget something I said on a podcast?’
Huges added that he was still not sure where Hostin got the idea that he was “a pawn of the right.”
“Maybe the Koch brothers are moving me around like a puppet, pumping money into my bank account somehow,” he speculated she might have believed.
“And that has compromised my judgment, or rather my honesty, it has compromised my intellectual honesty in some way.”
On Wednesday, Hughes went on Rogan’s podcast and spent part of the three-hour interview addressing the live clash with Hostin.
Hughes, speaking with co-host Whoopi Goldberg, explained that the plot of his book was more of an idea to fight for.
Hughes also noted that the audience seemed to be on his side during the segment, and co-host Alyssa Farah Griffin defended him.
“I don’t know if I changed my mind, or if it’s more that the show revealed that there are a lot of liberals who agree with what I’m saying,” he said.
Hughes explained his thesis on The View last week as that people should “treat people without regard to race.”
“Many people equate color blindness with ‘I don’t see race’ or pretending not to see race,” he said.
‘That’s a big mistake. We all see race, right? And we are all capable of racial bias, so we should all be aware of that possibility.
“My argument is not for that, my argument is that we should do everything we can to treat people without regard to race, both in our personal lives and in our public policies.”
Hughes said the reason he wrote the book was because in the last 10 years, America became too “woke” about how race was taught in schools.
“It became popular, in the name of anti-racism, to teach some kind of philosophy to our children and generally say that race is everything,” he said.
“I think that’s the wrong way to fight racism and that’s why I wrote this book.”
Hughes, speaking with co-host Whoopi Goldberg, explained that his argument was more of an idea to fight for.
“It’s an ideal, it’s a North Star and the question is not whether we will ever get there or touch it, but we have to know where we are going forward and backward, and we are going backwards.”