Megyn Kelly and Dan Abrams ended up yelling at each other in a heated five-minute argument over Donald Trump’s guilty verdict in New York on Thursday.
Kelly, 53, who has a long history of clashes with the former president, appeared as a guest on Dan Abrams Live on News Nation to react to the day’s news.
After admitting that the jury had no choice but to find guilty based on what was presented, he spent about a minute and a half criticizing the judge and Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg.
Abrams, 58, then argued that people could debate whether it was “morally” or “legally” wrong, but that there was “misconduct” on Trump’s part, to which Kelly demanded to know what he meant.
‘Number one, it’s paying a porn star $130,000 to keep her quiet, can we at least agree that that’s wrong? For a moment, I’m talking about morality versus legality,” Abrams said.
Megyn Kelly and Dan Abrams ended up yelling at each other in a fierce five-minute argument over Donald Trump’s guilty verdict Thursday in New York.
Kelly responded by saying that it was a private matter and that she didn’t know what kind of marriage Donald and Melania Trump had, just as she didn’t know what kind of marriage the Clintons had.
“I don’t care about the sex, I’m talking about the $130,000 to keep her quiet and protect her campaign,” Abrams replied.
Kelly insisted there was nothing wrong, arguing, “So when someone runs for office, they just lose the right to privacy?”
Abrams then asked, “When you do it to protect the campaign and you spend money on it, you’re crossing the line into legal problems, right?”
Kelly said he was wrong but Abrams wasn’t done.
He tried to back away and asked, “You don’t think he falsified business records either?”
“I don’t know what he did,” he said, to which Abrams got a little upset.
‘What does that mean? We just had a full trial, we heard every detail of this,’ she said in disbelief.
Kelly, who has a long history of clashing with the former president, appeared as a guest on Dan Abrams Live on News Nation to react to the day’s news.
Kelly said it was a private matter and she didn’t know what kind of marriage Donald and Melania Trump had, just as she didn’t know what kind of marriage the Clintons had.
“I don’t think he wrote ‘hush money to Stormy Daniels’, no one who has paid hush money would write something like that. I think he, or someone in the Trump organization, wrote ‘legal fees’ in the Adobe drop-down menu.” and that made a lot of sense because money to keep quiet was not an option,” he said.
“She was paying her lawyer, who paid the money to Stormy Daniels, and he was reimbursing her, even though he denied it on the stand.”
‘I don’t think there’s anything wrong with doing that. I think if you pay money to your lawyer… you could easily class it as a legal expense.’
Abrams, on the verge of laughing, responded: ‘It doesn’t matter what it’s for, right? Even if it is illegal conduct, you can simply consider it a legal expense.”
“There is nothing illegal about paying hush money in exchange for an NDA,” Kelly responded.
“There isn’t, but when you do it to protect your campaign, it is,” Abrams said.
That’s when the argument escalated, with Abrams and Kelly, both of whom have law degrees, apparently not realizing what the other was referring to.
Kelly asked, ‘No, what law are you citing?’
Abrams argued that people could debate whether it was “morally” or “legally” wrong, but that there was “a mistake” on Trump’s part.
Trump supporters react as a verdict is reached in the criminal trial of former US president and Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump.
Abrams responded: “Campaign finance law.”
‘Mistaken! “You don’t know what you’re talking about, you’re wrong,” Kelly said, and Abrams then demanded an explanation.
“This has been wrong from the beginning, it does not amount to a campaign contribution if it is the type of payment that could ever be made outside of the campaign.”
“That’s not the standard,” Abrams said, adding that “court after court” has said the standard is substantiality.
As Kelly continued to say “you’re wrong,” Abrams ended the segment by saying, “We’re going to have to agree to disagree.”
The world was shaken after former President Donald Trump was found guilty of 34 felonies for falsifying business records.
The jury of seven men and five women in Manhattan Criminal Court deliberated for nearly 10 hours before convicting the former president.
It was the first time a former US president faced a criminal trial and the verdict could alter the 2024 White House race, marking a pivotal moment in US history.
He faces sentencing on July 11, although his legal team has vowed to appeal the verdict.
