A leader of an extremist Islamist group has looked at a former Muslim while telling him that he deserves the death penalty for renouncing his faith.
The spokesman for Hizb ut-Tahrir, Uthman Badar, and Harris Sultan clashed in a fierce debate at the University of New South Wales in Sydney last week.
Mr. Sultan pressed Mr. Badar in a statement he made in March last year in which he said that Muslims who change their religion should be killed.
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& # 39; Former Muslim atheist & # 39; Harris Sultan (left) and Hizb ut-Tahrir's spokesman Uthman Badar (right) clashed in a heated debate at the University of New South Wales. The moderator of the debate is represented in the center
Mr. Sultan (left) pressed Mr. Badar to confirm his opinion that those who renounce the Islamic faith should be killed
& # 39; I want to know what will happen to me. I am an apostate, "said Mr. Sultan.
& # 39; What would happen to me if it were not a secular country … it's an Islamic state & # 39 ;?
Badar said it would depend on individual circumstances, and noted that Sultan knew what [the Islamic position] It's & # 39;
"If you want to focus on the Islamic position, we can do it without thinking about what happens to you and doing it for you," he said.
& # 39; I do not know what will happen to you. Because you can do many things.
"There is a big difference between an Islamic position and what may or may not happen in any particular circumstance."
Mr. Sultan (pictured) said he was born a Muslim in Pakistan but turned away from Islam after he "read" and & # 39; understood & # 39; the Koran
Then, the moderator of the debate asked Mr. Badar: "As a supporter of Islam, do you share the Islamic position?
& # 39; Yes & # 39; he replied.
"Although it took him four minutes to answer the question … Uthman finally proudly maintained his position that apostates should be killed in the Caliphate of Australia," Sultan posted with a video uploaded to YouTube.
"In my UNSW debate, he tried to sidestep the issue, but he finally relented and reaffirmed his position that former Muslims like me should be killed," he told Daily Mail Australia.
Mr. Sultan manages the page of Atheist ex Moslem on Facebook.
Badar (pictured) previously said at a forum in Sydney in March last year that former Muslims deserved death
"I was born a Muslim in Pakistan, they made me read the Koran, while others only read, I understood it too, that was enough to get away from him," says his Facebook page.
In March of last year, Mr. Badar He told a forum in Bankstown in southwest Sydney that former Muslims deserved death.
"The sentence for apostates as such in Islam is clear, apostates attract capital punishment and we are not afraid of that," said Badar in the presence of children.
HIZB UT-TAHRIR DECLARATION ON APOSTASY
& # 39; The ruling of the Lawgiver, Allah the Almighty, by apostasy is death, due to the Messenger's saying:
"Whoever changes his religion, kill him."
– From a statement issued by Hizb ut-Tahrir in May 2014 after the United States condemned the death sentence granted to an apostate by a Sharia court in Sudan
An apostate is someone who decides to leave Islam, but both the definition of apostasy and the Islamic position on it are the subject of debate among Islamic scholars.
There is no clear text in the Qur'an that requires the death of the apostates, with that belief derived from the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad known as the Hadith.
& # 39; If someone [a Muslim] Discard your religion, kill it, "says one saying, but others contain examples of apostasy with impunity.
Hizb ut-Tahrir has been linked to the shooting in September 2015 in Parramatta of accountant Curtis Cheng, following revelations that he radicalized a 15-year-old boy who shot dead the father of two.
The Sunni fundamentalist group is fighting for a global caliphate based on Sharia law.
His position is so extreme that the organization was banned last year in Indonesia, the largest Muslim nation in the world.
Other Islamic nations such as Pakistan, Bangladesh and Saudi Arabia have also banned the group, which was established in 1953.