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General practitioner and urban development Secretary Ben Carson is said to have made transphobic remarks at an internal meeting, expressing concern about & # 39; big, hairy men & # 39; who try to infiltrate homeless shelter for women

General practitioner and urban development Secretary Ben Carson reportedly made transphobic remarks at an internal meeting this week, expressing concern about & # 39; big, hairy men & # 39; who try to infiltrate women's homeless shelter.

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The comments were verified by three different sources that were present during Carson's visit to the HUD office in San Francisco on Tuesday, with each telling The Washington Post they interpreted the message as an attack on transgender women.

Carson apparently also blamed that society no longer seems capable of distinguishing between men and women, two staff members said.

The comments allegedly baffled and upset many of the 50 HUD employees at the meeting, one of whom protested.

General practitioner and urban development Secretary Ben Carson is said to have made transphobic remarks at an internal meeting, expressing concern about & # 39; big, hairy men & # 39; who try to infiltrate homeless shelter for women

General practitioner and urban development Secretary Ben Carson is said to have made transphobic remarks at an internal meeting, expressing concern about & # 39; big, hairy men & # 39; who try to infiltrate homeless shelter for women

An employee who took notes during the meeting reminded Carson that he said, "Transgender people should get the same rights as everyone else, but they can't change things for everyone."

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He allegedly followed the remark by saying that shelter operators and women's groups told him that homeless women would get traumatized when "big, hairy men" enter shelters that identify themselves as women.

He then apparently added that he believes shelters for one gender should be able to reject transgender people.

"That was the first time any of us had heard such a derogatory language," an employee told the newspaper. "He is more tactful when he talks to Congress, while to me this seemed like a wage."

A woman is said to have received a huge applause from her colleagues when she got up to refute Carson's outbursts.

"It was quite demoralizing and deadly for many of us who work here and serve everyone," an employee said Post.

"Many of us have questioned the department's reasoning about its proposal to abolish the rule for equal access. For him to come to San Francisco and say this, it was incredible. People were just shocked. The woman asked him to reconsider his comments, for which he thanked her, and then went on. & # 39;

The former neurosurgeon has a well-documented public history of making negative or offensive remarks about the transgender community.

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When he became president in 2015, he referred to transgender people as "abnormal" and said they have no place in the army.

When he became president in 2015, Carson called transgender people "abnormal" and said they have no place in the army

When he became president in 2015, Carson called transgender people "abnormal" and said they have no place in the army

When he became president in 2015, Carson called transgender people "abnormal" and said they have no place in the army

During his time as a HUD secretary, Carson renounced the protection that the Obama administration established for transgender people and regretted that he believed in equal rights, not in & # 39; special rights & # 39 ;.

In May, the Carson department introduced a proposal that would allow government-funded homeless shelter for certain individuals to be denied access to religious persons or to force transgender women to share bathrooms and bedrooms with men.

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Carson said publicly that he had no plans to eliminate the 2012 Equal Access Rule, which prevents such measures, and has often stated even during conference hearings that he has a responsibility to ensure that everyone becomes fair treated & # 39 ;.

But out of sight of the public and during internal meetings, government officials say Carson has repeatedly mocked the transgender community.

"His overall tone is negative and makes a joke about these people," an official told Post. "It's disrespectful to the people we're trying to serve."

DailyMail.com has contacted the HUD for comments, but has not heard anything at the time of publication.

In a statement to the Post, a HUD official who was not at the meeting, denied the claims and emphasized: "The secretary does not use a different language to refer to transgender people. Every report to the contrary is incorrect. & # 39;

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Speaking anonymously, the source said he believed Carson was referring to men posing as women to gain access to the hiding places of battered women, rather than focusing on transgender women.

An employee who took notes during the meeting reminded Carson that he said: & # 39; Transgender should get the same rights as everyone else, but they shouldn't change things for everyone. & # 39; He allegedly followed the remark by saying that operators and women's groups informed him that homeless women would be traumatized as & # 39; big, hairy men & # 39; enter shelters that identify themselves as women

An employee who took notes during the meeting reminded Carson that he said: & # 39; Transgender should get the same rights as everyone else, but they shouldn't change things for everyone. & # 39; He allegedly followed the remark by saying that operators and women's groups informed him that homeless women would be traumatized as & # 39; big, hairy men & # 39; enter shelters that identify themselves as women

An employee who took notes during the meeting reminded Carson that he said: & # 39; Transgender should get the same rights as everyone else, but they shouldn't change things for everyone. & # 39; He allegedly followed the remark by saying that operators and women's groups informed him that homeless women would be traumatized as & # 39; big, hairy men & # 39; enter shelters that identify themselves as women

Gillian Branstetter, spokeswoman for the National Center for Transgender Equality, warned Carson of his alleged comments and called them & # 39; seriously offensive & # 39;

Gillian Branstetter, spokeswoman for the National Center for Transgender Equality, warned Carson of his alleged comments and called them & # 39; seriously offensive & # 39;

Gillian Branstetter, spokeswoman for the National Center for Transgender Equality, warned Carson of his alleged comments and called them & # 39; seriously offensive & # 39;

In response to the stunning allegations, Rep. Jennifer Wexton issued a destructive statement calling for Carson's resignation
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In response to the stunning allegations, Rep. Jennifer Wexton issued a destructive statement calling for Carson's resignation

In response to the stunning allegations, Rep. Jennifer Wexton issued a destructive statement calling for Carson's resignation

Gillian Branstetter, spokeswoman for the National Center for Transgender Equality, warned Carson of his alleged comments and called them & # 39; seriously offensive & # 39 ;.

& # 39; It is seriously insulting to use the specter of violence from cis-men to limit the rights of transgender people who are usually victims of that violence & # 39 ;, she said. "It is a mythical view that policies that include transgender people are somehow a threat."

"It is frankly despicable that such a harmful idea would be used by someone charged with facilitating programs that are meant to help those in need, many of whom are transgender," added Branstetter to it.

In response to the stunning allegations, Rep. Jennifer Wexton issued a destructive statement calling for Carson's resignation.

"Secretary Carson's comments are disgusting," Wexton saw. "These comments only confirm that his recent efforts to erase the Equal Access Rule are rooted in ignorance, not in sound policies. By allowing shelters to discriminate against transgender Americans, the Secretary endangers lives. & # 39;

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