- Podcast host Darryl Cooper claimed that Winston Churchill is the main villain of World War II
- Carlson’s show with Cooper has been viewed more than 29.1 million times.
- The White House issued a statement condemning the interview on Thursday.
The White House has criticized Tucker Carlson for his interview with a man he called “the best and most popular historian in the U.S.” over his claims that Adolf Hitler was not the main villain of World War II.
Daryl Cooper, a podcast host and self-proclaimed historian, caused controversy when he said that not only did the Nazis not intend to murder millions, but that Winston Churchill is the main villain of the war.
The show sparked outrage online, especially after X CEO Elon Musk quoted the video on Twitter, writing, “Very interesting. Worth watching.” Musk deleted the post.
White House spokesman Andrew Bates issued a harsh criticism of the show’s episode.
“Giving a microphone to a Holocaust denier who spreads Nazi propaganda is a disgusting and sadistic insult to all Americans, to the memory of the more than 6 million Jews who were genocidally murdered by Adolf Hitler, to the service of the millions of Americans who fought to defeat Nazism, and to every subsequent victim of anti-Semitism,” Bates said in a statement.
The White House is criticizing Tucker Carlson for his interview with Darryl Cooper, a man he called “the best and most popular historian in the U.S.” for his claims that Adolf Hitler was not the main villain of World War II.
‘Hitler was one of the most evil figures in human history and the ‘chief villain’ of World War II, period. The Biden-Harris administration believes that trafficking in this moral rot is unacceptable at any time, let alone less than a year after the deadliest massacre perpetrated against the Jewish people since the Holocaust and at a time when the cancer of anti-Semitism is growing around the world.’
Much of what Cooper said about World War II he blamed on Britain’s Prime Minister, Winston Churchill.
“Now, he didn’t kill the most people, he didn’t commit the most atrocities, but I think… when you look at it and you tell the story properly and you don’t leave anything out, you see that he was primarily responsible for that war becoming what it was,” Cooper said.
Although he did not consider Hitler a hero of World War II, he says that he was only wrong when he led Germany into war.a war in which they were completely unprepared to face millions and millions of prisoners of war and local political prisoners.
“They came in without any plan and just dumped those people into camps and millions of people ended up dead there,” seeming to imply that the Holocaust happened by accident.
Cooper hosts a podcast called ‘Martyr Made,’ which saw a massive spike in listeners following his appearance with Carlson.
The interview has been viewed more than 29.1 million times, according to figures from the social media platform.
Cooper doubled down on his blame for Churchill, posting a lengthy thread about the UK Prime Minister – widely regarded as a World War II hero – on X after the controversy.
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Carlson’s show sparked outrage online, especially after X CEO Elon Musk quote-tweeted the video, writing, “Very interesting. Worth watching.” Musk has since deleted the post.
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Cooper, a podcast host and self-proclaimed historian, caused controversy when he said that not only did the Nazis not intend to murder millions, but that Winston Churchill, not Adolf Hitler, was the main villain of the war.
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“I know this sounds like hyperbole. Churchill did not order the most killings, or oversee the most atrocities, or commit the worst crimes. But most of those crimes could not have been committed if the war had not happened, and Churchill was the leader most determined to make it happen,” Cooper wrote.
Cooper’s remarks have drawn criticism from across the political spectrum, including from many conservatives.
Former Congresswoman Liz Cheney wrote: “This is actually pro-Nazi propaganda, including claims like ‘Churchill was the main villain of World War II’ and ‘Hitler didn’t want to fight.’ No serious or honorable person would support or endorse this kind of garbage.”
“This is just the same apologia for Hitler (“He didn’t want to expand the war”, “They didn’t know what to do with all the prisoners of war, so they put them in concentration camps”, etc.). Surprisingly, there is no historiography behind this. This “popular historian” is just making conclusive statements. It’s shameful,” added Compact Magazine editor Sohrab Ahmari.
Musk has not commented on why he deleted his post.