The MSNBC host was stunned when a star impeachment witness revealed he backs Trump because Harris is a bigger “existential threat” than she was on January 6.

MSNBC’s Ari Melber was shocked when Gordon Sondland, a star witness during former President Donald Trump’s first impeachment trial, said he planned to vote for the Republican candidate.

Sondland served as Trump’s ambassador to the European Union and testified against him in 2019 when he was accused of delaying funding to Ukraine in an effort to pressure President Volodymyr Zelensky to announce investigations into Joe and Hunter Biden.

During a segment Wednesday night, Melber noted Sondland’s rejection of Trump after the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol and asked him if he still felt that way.

“No, I don’t hold that and I’ll tell you why,” he said during a roundtable discussion alongside other former Trump officials, including Peter Navarro and Sarah Matthews.

“I have lived four years under the Biden-Harris policies and I must say that those policies are not only becoming an existential threat to our country’s way of life, but also to our allies,” Sondland argued.

An angry Melber interrupted the former ambassador.

‘I’m going to let you finish, but this is so surprising. You said it was a “no for me” after that, after January 6th. And here we are now and you’re saying it’s a yes for you? —Melber asked.

Sondland responded affirmatively.

‘It’s a yes, for me. “It’s an absolute yes for me,” he said. “That’s how badly the Biden-Harris team has pursued their work.”

Melber continued to insist, pointing out that “the only thing he seems to say is that January 6 and that type of attack on democracy is bigger than any policy.”

“I see so many attacks on democracy that overshadow January 6,” Sondland responded.

Before he could delve into details, Melber asked Matthews what he thought.

Matthews, a former White House deputy press secretary, supports Harris.

He argued that he was not going to vote on political positions this year because he saw Trump as a big threat.

Sondland disagreed.

“Politics is very important,” he said. “Because politics translates into our way of life and the way our country operates.”

“What I want to say is that what Donald Trump did on January 6th was not exemplary and I already said he lost the election, he should have admitted he lost the election and moved on,” Sondland said.

The former ambassador then argued that after living under the Biden-Harris administration for four years, Trump doesn’t look so bad.

‘I live in a bucolic city of Portland, Oregon, which has been destroyed by those policies. Absolutely decimated. Companies are suffering. “My own business is suffering solely for political reasons, and everything can be fixed and they don’t want to fix it,” Sondland complained.