PIERS MORGAN meets a psychopath (through reinforced glass) as smart as he has turned

You can't sit face to face with him, & Stuart Cabb, who heads the TV production company that makes my crime documentaries. & # 39; Why not? & # 39; I asked, bearing in mind that I was face to face with countless horrific serial killers and murderers.

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& # 39; He's too dangerous, & # 39; came the answer.

Wow. Given the extreme violence of some of my interviewees, this was an extraordinary statement.

& # 39; How should I talk to him? & # 39;

& # 39; He will be in a safe room, behind heavily reinforced glass and guarded by armed guards. & # 39;

& # 39; No direct contact? & # 39;

& # 39; None. The prison has been relentless about this. It is for your safety. & # 39;

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Paris Bennett, 25, killed his four-year-old sister when he was 12 to punish his mother. Piers Morgan met him in a Texas prison where he served for forty years

Paris Bennett, 25, killed his four-year-old sister when he was 12 to punish his mother. Piers Morgan met him in a Texas prison where he served for forty years

Which person, I thought, can be considered a threat to my life, that I may not even get into the same airspace?

The answer was Paris Bennett, from Abilene, a Texas rural town. Bennett has an IQ of 141, which qualifies him as a genius. Less than a quarter of a percent of the world's population has that level of intelligence.

He is also a psychopath. I do not mean someone with psychopathic tendencies, I mean someone who has been formally diagnosed as a psychopath by medical experts.

Real psychopaths have a chronic mental disorder that manifests itself in a number of personality traits, including amoral or antisocial behavior, extreme self-centeredness, a lack of ability to love or to build meaningful relationships, and no sense of guilt, shame or embarrassment .

They are always defenseless, with a complete disregard for the feelings of others, and often use charm and usually lie to manipulate or force others to make their bids.

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Psychopaths can also be quite terrifyingly violent. Paris Bennett ticks every box.

Twelve years ago, when he was 13, Paris decided that he wanted to punish his mother Charity for various irritations that he suspected had caused him. His first thought was to simply kill her. Then he came up with a new, shockingly corrupt plan: he would instead kill his four-year-old sister Ella, knowing that he would then go to prison so that his mother would lose both her children at the same time and live with the horror. It was a plan that he would implement with very pathogenic violence.

While Charity was working in a local bar, Paris convinced his baby sitter to go home. Then he calmly walked into his sister's bedroom where she was sleeping and started attacking her furiously. He hit and choked her before stabbing her 17 times with a kitchen knife.

Paris with his mother Charity who met Santa Claus when he was little. Paris serves a 40-year prison sentence, the maximum sentence available to a minor in Texas after killing his four-year-old sister 13 years ago

Paris with his mother Charity who met Santa Claus when he was little. Paris serves a 40-year prison sentence, the maximum sentence available to a minor in Texas after killing his four-year-old sister 13 years ago

Paris with his mother Charity who met Santa Claus when he was little. Paris serves a 40-year prison sentence, the maximum sentence available to a minor in Texas after killing his four-year-old sister 13 years ago

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Paris then called a friend on the phone and talked perfectly with him for six minutes before calling the police, who came to arrest him. The murder has achieved its goal.

As Charity told me when we met: & # 39; If Paris had killed me the way he originally intended, I would have suffered just a few moments.

& # 39; But by killing Ella, he knew he sentenced me to life-long suffering. & # 39;

Paris serves a 40-year prison sentence, the maximum sentence available for a minor in Texas.

Now 25, he will be free within a few years. And that is where this horrific story takes an even sinister and disturbing turn.

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Because, amazingly, Charity has forgiven her son, says she still loves him, and visits him regularly. But she is afraid that if he gets a conditional release, he will come and try to hurt her again.

Charity has forgiven her son, says she still loves him and visits him regularly. In the photo: Paris at the age of 10, two years before he murdered his sister Ella (photo of two years old) after convincing his babysitter to go home

Charity has forgiven her son, says she still loves him and visits him regularly. In the photo: Paris at the age of 10, two years before he murdered his sister Ella (photo of two years old) after convincing his babysitter to go home

Charity has forgiven her son, says she still loves him and visits him regularly. In the photo: Paris at the age of 10, two years before he murdered his sister Ella (photo of two years old) after convincing his babysitter to go home

And she now has another young child, a six-year-old boy named Phoenix, whose life would be immediately endangered.

Experts believe that Paris remains a very clear and present danger, not least for those closest to him.

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This is undoubtedly the ultimate test for the love of a parent. Could you forgive a child who killed another of your children? Could you continue to love that child? Could you bear the thought that that child will be freed to possibly do it again?

As the father of four children, I honestly do not know what the answers to these questions are. I'm not sure if a parent will do it until it happens to them. But I was fascinated to talk to Paris and Charity, to try to understand the reality of their situation.

I met Charity outside the Ferguson Unit, a grim, forbidding state prison in Texas, where Paris is being held. She is an intelligent, attractive 45-year-old woman. But her eyes and attitude suggest a persistent fear that will not disappear – both because of the torment of what happened and what may happen in the future.

I asked her what I could expect from her son when I went inside.

& # 39; He is human & # 39 ;, she replied. & # 39; He will be kind, courteous, polite. Paris is very charming when it wants to be. I mean, he's a psychopath. & # 39;

Now 25, he will be parole in a few years, but experts believe that Paris remains a very clear and present danger, not least for those closest to him

Now 25, he will be parole in a few years, but experts believe that Paris remains a very clear and present danger, not least for those closest to him

Now 25, he will be parole in a few years, but experts believe that Paris remains a very clear and present danger, not least for those closest to him

I entered the room where the interview was to take place and found a dark, walled cage.

The armed prison guard was strict: & # 39; You have one hour from the moment you start, no more minutes. I'm going to get to Paris now. & # 39;

A few seconds later I saw a lightly built young man walk into the cage with a white cauldron suit and stepped towards me.

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He was about 5ft 10in, slim and athletic, with his head shaved bald, a pronounced Adam & # 39; s apple, thick black eyebrows and a large silver chain around his neck.

& # 39; Hello everyone, & # 39; he announced. & # 39; Since this is going to happen for ITV, would you like me to speak in English? & # 39; He grinned as he said this. My thoughts flew back to a conversation I had the night before with two of America & # 39; s best criminal profilers.

Real psychopaths have a chronic mental disorder that manifests itself in a number of personality traits, including amoral or antisocial behavior, extreme self-centeredness, a lack of ability to love or to build meaningful relationships, and no sense of guilt, shame or embarrassment .

& # 39; Will he try to play me? & # 39; I asked Mark Safarik, a former FBI agent of 30 years.

& # 39; Of course he will, & # 39; Mark replied. & # 39; For him it's a game. He has an hour to get one and he's smart enough to try it, and narcissistic enough to think he's smarter than you. & # 39;

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Dr. Casey Jordan, a criminal behavior specialist, added a warning: & he has investigated you, I guarantee it and he will dimension you faster than you will put him in order. & # 39;

I stared at Paris Bennett and he stared at me. Then he grinned again. I immediately found him nervous. While we were talking to each other while our cameras were set up, he spoke in a sharp, articulated manner, but his eyes never left mine.

Unlike any other assassin I have met, he radiated extremely arrogant self-confidence.

& # 39; Why are you doing this interview? & # 39; I asked him as soon as we started. & # 39; To show people that I am not a monster or a villain, & # 39; he replied.

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& # 39; Can you explain what you did to your sister? & # 39;

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& # 39; I cannot easily explain everything. I think this has been one of the biggest challenges for other people over the years, because nobody likes to get confused. Nobody likes to be stunned. We like … easy answers. & # 39;

I asked him what caused the anger that caused his murderous behavior. & # 39; For years there was just this hot, flaming ball of anger in the pit of my stomach and it was aimed at my mother. & # 39; And one of the reasons I chose to kill my sister and not someone else is because I knew I could hurt my mother in the worst way possible, because as a child I had always known that the most devastating What would be the loss of one of her children for my mother, and I found a way to take both of her children in one fell swoop. & # 39;

Piers met Paris who was about 5ft 10in, slim and athletic, with his head shaved bald, a pronounced Adam & # 39; s apple, thick black eyebrows and a large silver chain around his neck. & # 39; Hello everyone, & # 39; he announced. & # 39; Since this is going to happen for ITV, would you like me to speak in English? & # 39; He grinned as he said this

Piers met Paris who was about 5ft 10in, slim and athletic, with his head shaved bald, a pronounced Adam & # 39; s apple, thick black eyebrows and a large silver chain around his neck. & # 39; Hello everyone, & # 39; he announced. & # 39; Since this is going to happen for ITV, would you like me to speak in English? & # 39; He grinned as he said this

Piers met Paris who was about 5ft 10in, slim and athletic, with his head shaved bald, a pronounced Adam & # 39; s apple, thick black eyebrows and a large silver chain around his neck. & # 39; Hello everyone, & # 39; he announced. & # 39; Since this is going to happen for ITV, would you like me to speak in English? & # 39; He grinned as he said this

I felt a shiver envelop my body.

To hear him admit so calmly, such a vile thought process was really disturbing.

There are home video & # 39; s from Paris playing with Ella, in which they resemble every other loving older brother and sister. Family friends told us that he & # 39; a good, normal brother & # 39; layman.

Paris himself told me: & # 39; Part of me loved my sister and would have turned the world upside down. & # 39; But there was another part of him that was & # 39; injured, distorted, dark … the part that had been in pain for so long & # 39 ;.

He paused.

& # 39; Misery loves company. & # 39;

Jesus.

This is undoubtedly the ultimate test for the love of a parent. Could you forgive a child who killed another of your children? Could you continue to love that child? Could you bear the thought that that child will be freed to possibly do it again?

This was like listening to Hannibal Lecter in Silence Of The Lambs – a very clever mind that casually spewed gruesome words.

He insisted: & # 39; I love her (Ella) with every fiber of my being. & # 39;

& # 39; You say that in the present tense, but she is dead because you killed her, & # 39; I replied. & # 39; Do you understand what love is? Are you capable of that? & # 39;

Paris looked confused for a moment. & # 39; I don't know how to answer that question. It is not easy. I can't just point out something and say: & # 39; Okay, that's love, I recognize it and feel it. & # 39; & # 39;

I saw that he had no idea what true love is. Even when I asked if he loved his mother, he couldn't answer.

When Dr. Jordan saw the interview as it did on external monitors, he later told me: & # 39; It's just like a color blind question to describe the color red. They can't do it.

& # 39; He cannot describe love because he cannot feel it. & # 39;

Where the anger against his mother came from, Paris claimed that he felt left out, but Charity disputed this: & # 39; For the longest time he was my only child. Life revolved around Paris. He was loved by everyone, I was very present as a mother. & # 39;

If he is not a monster, then what is he?

& # 39; To answer the question of whether or not I can be a psychopath & # 39 ;, he said, & # 39; I would like to point out that in the most recent edition of the diagnostic and statistical handbook of mental disorders, mental health professionals are now in favor of the idea of ​​a spectrum.

& # 39; Yes, I have committed a monstrous crime, but does one error define my entire life and does that one error mean that I am at the very end of the spectrum? I do not think so. & # 39;

There are home video & # 39; s from Paris playing with Ella, in which they resemble every other loving older brother and sister. Family friends told us that he & # 39; a good, normal brother & # 39; layman. Paris himself told me: & # 39; Part of me loved my sister and would have turned the world upside down. & # 39; But there was another part of him that & # 39; wounded, twisted, dark & ​​# 39; was the part that had been in pain for so long & # 39;

There are home video & # 39; s from Paris playing with Ella, in which they resemble every other loving older brother and sister. Family friends told us that he & # 39; a good, normal brother & # 39; layman. Paris himself told me: & # 39; Part of me loved my sister and would have turned the world upside down. & # 39; But there was another part of him that & # 39; wounded, twisted, dark & ​​# 39; was the part that had been in pain for so long & # 39;

There are home video & # 39; s from Paris playing with Ella, in which they resemble every other loving older brother and sister. Family friends told us that he & # 39; a good, normal brother & # 39; layman. Paris himself told me: & # 39; Part of me loved my sister and would have turned the world upside down. & # 39; But there was another part of him that was & # 39; injured, distorted, dark … the part that had been in pain for so long & # 39;

Hmmm.

I would say that Paris is definitely at the extreme end of the spectrum and my experts agree.

& # 39; The subtext of everything he says is meant for his conditional hearing & # 39 ;, said Dr. Jordan.

I asked Charity how she could stand being close to him again after what he did, let alone forgive him and continue to love him.

& # 39; Well, he's my son, & # 39; she answered. & # 39; And as a parent, I have always believed that you give your children unconditional love. He clearly has a mental health problem – he's a psychopath – but I don't know how to stop loving my children. & # 39;

To my surprise, I suddenly felt a wave of empathy and understanding for her position.

I stared at Paris Bennett and he stared at me. Then he grinned again. I immediately found him nervous. While we were talking to each other while our cameras were set up, he spoke in a sharp, articulated manner, but his eyes never left mine.

She has lost her daughter and also lost her son. Yet he is still alive, and when you meet him, Paris Bennett appears to be a very normal, charming, polite and intelligent young man.

If you didn't know what he had done, you would probably like him. But I do know what he has done, and I cannot get out of my mind, the very real possibility that he is once again doing charity.

& # 39; Experts say he remains very dangerous. & # 39; I told her. & # 39; Are you not worried that if he comes out he might come and kill you and Phoenix? & # 39;

& # 39; Yes. I think he would do it again under the right conditions. I am still afraid of Paris, but it is possible to love him and forgive him and still be afraid of him. & # 39;

What a staggering dilemma.

When I pressed him at some point in the interview about whether he played me to play the waiting list, Paris got angry.

He did not like to be confronted or challenged. The most narrative moment for me came when he tried to insist that he was unable to commit such a crime again.

& # 39; The only person I am dangerous to is myself, because it is at the very moment that I feel the chains slip and the bars buckle, just as I notice that dark part of myself that comes out again , I would remove myself from the comparison. & # 39;

& # 39; But you accept that it may be there? & # 39; I asked.

& # 39; Yes, I want. & # 39;

& # 39; By accepting that the dark side is still there, you must accept that you may still be dangerous. We must assume that you can control that dark side, and it is something that you have not been able to control in the past. Do you accept that? & # 39;

When I pressed him at some point in the interview about whether he played me to play the waiting list, Paris got angry. He did not like to be confronted or challenged. The most narrative moment for me came when he tried to insist that he was unable to commit such a crime again

When I pressed him at some point in the interview about whether he played me to play the waiting list, Paris got angry. He did not like to be confronted or challenged. The most narrative moment for me came when he tried to insist that he was unable to commit such a crime again

When I pressed him at some point in the interview about whether he played me to play the waiting list, Paris got angry. He did not like to be confronted or challenged. The most narrative moment for me came when he tried to insist that he was unable to commit such a crime again

& # 39; I agree. & # 39;

Then he turned to an unlikely source of support for his argument. & # 39; Everyone who walks around has the ability to commit a murder. Margaret Atwood once wrote that if we all stood trial for our thoughts, we would all be hanged. & # 39;

Charity had also watched the interview and cried a part of it, especially when Paris couldn't tell if he loved her. & # 39; There will come a time when I will no longer be able to mother my two children and when the time comes to make that choice, Phoenix will come first. & # 39;

& # 39; Do you have to walk away from Paris? & # 39;

& # 39; I think I am developing a greater ability to do that, & # 39; she answered.

& # 39; He would try to find you. & # 39;

& # 39; He could, yes. I would be somewhere as far away as possible because I understand what the risks are. & # 39;

Paris says about his mother: & # 39; I'm surprised she can still love me and take care of me and stay with me. & # 39;

It will also surprise viewers.

  • Psychopath is on Thursday at ITV1 at 9 p.m.

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