Meghan Markle revealed today that she owns an artwork with the words ‘human kind – be both’ on it, wowed students at her old high school and talked about growing up as an ‘impressionable’ teenager on her latest Archetypes podcast.
In the episode, titled ‘Beyond the Archetype: Human, Being’, Meghan spoke with Sex and the City author Candace Bushell and trans actress Michaela Jae Rodriguez about ‘living outside the labels society gives us’.
The Duchess of Sussex also revealed how her mother, Doria Ragland, calls her a ‘flower’ and recalled her time at school as an ‘impressionable’ child.
Meghan began the episode by describing a piece of art in her £11 million mansion in Montecito, California. She says, ‘There’s a piece of art in my living room, it’s not fancy. It’s kind of this rectangle shape, almost like a plate. And it simply says “human type”: be both.
‘My friend Jen gave it to me a couple of days ago and it always makes me smile. Because I love her and our friendship – it reminds me of her, we’ve been super close since we were like 17 years old – but also, because it’s true. Human type – be both.
“It got me thinking about other types of puns that resonate and specifically I was thinking about something that was told to me many years ago. You are not just a human being, you are a simple human being.
Now, the woman who said this to me was trying to remind me to go easy on myself, pretty much along the same lines as saying don’t let perfect be the enemy of good. Well this is just another version of that same kind of advice, you are human, just being.
The latest episode of The Duchess of Sussex’s Archetypes dropped today. It is titled ‘Beyond the archetype: human, being’.
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex, Prince Harry and his wife, Meghan Markle, during the Jaguar Land Rover Driving Challenge at the Invictus Games
Meghan also visited her old school, Immaculate Heart School in Los Angeles, and chatted with students about whether they were being “labelled” or “given the space to be human.”
She asked if any of them had heard the word ‘bimbo’, to which one of them replied that she had only seen it once on TikTok.
“Speaking of getting older,” Meghan says, before describing how she the word was “something I grew up seeing all the time.”
The Duchess has previously complained that she was treated like a fool when she was a ‘briefcase girl’ on Deal Or No Deal.
After a conservation with Candace Bushell, Michaela Jae Rodriguez, poet Amanda Gorman and self-help guru Dr. Shefali Tsabary, Meghan describes how her guests made her feel.
“I find it very inspiring to hear from women who are clear about who they are: unwavering, without babbling, self-assured, despite whatever barriers they may have seen up close,” she says.
“And as I was thinking about closing this episode, how could I suppress that feeling, that inspiring feeling of release, when you get rid of all those fears of judgment.” [and] you sit in your authenticity. When you allow yourself to be human and be.’
Completing the episode with a quote from a poem, he adds: ‘And where there is a woman, there is always a way. Truer words have never been spoken.’
Meghan tells listeners that she wants to revisit an important part of her ‘origin story’, the Immaculate Heart School in Los Angeles.
“I wanted to explore that these labels and boxes are part of the self-identification of the young women there,” she says. Or if they have given themselves the space to be human.
As the Duchess returns to the school, she describes how the memories would “flood back”.
“It’s great because as an adult you come back to this environment, it feels so small, but when you’re in high school on this campus it was so big.”
‘Middle and high school is a great time for anyone in your life. You are so impressionable and you also think you know everything when you are a teenager.
“But especially for young women, this is the period of time where you start to look around.
‘Around culture and society, the messages you’re getting, and you’re constantly wondering, what am I supposed to be like?
At least that was a lot. My teenage experience and maybe maybe things have changed.’
The Duchess of Sussex joined Sex and the City author Candace Bushnell and trans actress and actress Michaela Jaé Rodriquez for a conversation “about expressing one’s identity and embracing the nuances that make each of us, just , humans”.
The episode also features poet Amanda Gorman (pictured) and Dr. Shefali Tsabary, a self-help guru who has written a book called The Awakened Family.
Meghan is heard chatting with three young graduates, Abigail, Diana and Grace.
Asked what labels they felt applied to them, one responded, ‘the b-word,’ while another said, ‘bossy.’
Meghan then mentions the word ‘bimbo’ and says, ‘So when you hear the word bimbo, who or what do you think of?’
After one of them replies that they’ve only heard the word on TikTok, Meghan says, “I mean talking about getting older, but this idea of the dumb, dumb blonde, this was something I grew up seeing all the time.” , and here we go, they hadn’t.’
The royal then tells the group how she once received a religious studies assignment at school to plan her own wedding.
“That’s crazy,” one of them replies.
Meghan then has a chat with Dr. Shefali Tsabary, an expert in family dynamics and personal development.
It came to light yesterday that Archetypes seemed to have lost popularity with US listeners, with the latest episode sitting at just 77 on the US charts as of 1pm yesterday, behind a collection of lullabies.
Prince Harry, The Duke of Sussex and Meghan, The Duchess of Sussex attend the 2021 Salute To Freedom Gala at the Intrepid Sea-Air-Space Museum on November 10 last year.
The ranking of ‘Episodes’ is ‘determined solely by the number of unique listeners on that day’