Leah Feiger: And it also plays into the hands of all the media outlets that are determined to harm us.
David Gilbert: Of course.
Leah Feiger: This is the end, yes. It’s fun.
David Gilbert: This reinforces the idea that Trump has said that “ABC is going to give the questions to Kamala.”
Leah Feiger: Okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, no, that was their big conspiracy before they started. Okay. It’s a shame, but it’s good. Tim, what do you have for us?
Tim Marchman: Loomer expresses her belief that the political goal of the Democratic Party is to murder Jews.
Leah Feiger: I love this. Say more.
Tim Marchman: In an interview earlier this year, he said, “If you’re a Democrat and you vote like a Jew or a Democrat, then you deserve what’s happening to you.” They’re like the Jews in the Holocaust era who helped the Nazis because they thought they were going to be the last ones to go. They’re like the Jewish kapo in the Holocaust who helped put the Jews in the gas chambers. That’s what these people are.
Leah Feiger: Beautiful.
Tim Marchman: As beautiful as it may be, it’s hard to approach conspiracy theories this way, but you almost want to step back and ask what steps elected Democrats have taken to achieve this apparent goal.
Leah Feiger: Sure.
Tim Marchman: … to destroy Jews in the United States and elsewhere. I don’t see much evidence of that, but it’s a fundamental theme and one that seems to me to be somewhat irreconcilable with her declared white nationalism, but she’s the one who’s directly making these comparisons. And I think that qualifies as a conspiracy because, at least in my view, the Democratic Party has kept it pretty well hidden.
Leah Feiger: Both were sad and terrible, and I’m not declaring anyone a winner this week. I refuse to reward either of them with a victory.
David Gilbert: That’s a good resolution.
Tim Marchman: I want to fight back. I want to fight back by saying that I was specifically prohibited from creating a custom conspiracy about MK-ULTRA and Laura Loomer for the purpose of winning the best conspiracy of the week award.
Leah Feiger: Also, I told you that you couldn’t share specific conspiracies about Laura Loomer that would lead to a lawsuit, so…
Tim Marchman: Well, if you’re going to let us fight with our hands tied behind our backs.
Leah Feiger: Thank you both so much for joining us this week.
David Gilbert: Thank you.
Tim Marchman: Thanks for inviting me.
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