Jerry Hayes says it’s ‘selfish and unfair’ to go to the pub after calling in sick

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Jerry Hayes says it is “selfish and unfair” to socialize while sick after a judge ruled that going to the pub while sick from work is not a criminal offence.

Former Tory MP Jerry Hayes appeared on Good Morning Britain today with student star Thomas Skinner to debate whether going out to socialize after calling in sick at work should be a stackable offence.

Barrister Jerry, 68, of Uttlesford, said workers will abandon companies at a time when businesses are struggling after the pandemic, while Essex-based business owner Thomas, 30, argues that bosses must trust their workforce and not every illness is the same.

It comes after the case of a 66-year-old driver who was fired after he was caught at the social club while sick from work. A judge rules that unless his employer specifically prohibited him from socializing while sick, he was free to do what he liked.

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Jerry Hayes says it’s ‘selfish and unfair’ to socialize while sick after a judge rules that going to the pub while sick from work is not a criminal offense for Good Morning Britain today

Essex-based entrepreneur and apprentice star Thomas Skinner, 30, says bosses must trust their staff and not every illness is the same

Essex-based entrepreneur and apprentice star Thomas Skinner, 30, says bosses must trust their staff and not every illness is the same

About a possible influx of workers calling in sick due to the start of the euro tomorrow, he said: “I think this is going to happen and there will be a lot of leeway and sympathy from employers, but you book the time off.

‘You do, you book the time off and if the employer says yes, there’s no problem.

‘If you are a primary school teacher, the class has to go home. When you’re a small business owner and the pandemic is over it’s just selfish and unfair and it’s the unfairness that really, really is [unacceptable].’

Several viewers agreed with Jerry, arguing that it is “disloyal” to your employers and colleagues to go to the pub “cozy” if you are supposedly not fit enough to go to work.

Several viewers agreed with Jerry, arguing that it's

Several viewers agreed with Jerry, arguing that it’s “disloyal” to your employers and co-workers to go “cosy” to the pub if you’re not good enough to go to work

Someone wrote: ‘If you’re healthy enough to go to a bar, you’re good enough to go to work. Selfish people who don’t think that their colleagues have to pick up their work.’

Another said: ‘It is disloyal to the people who pay your wages and disrespectful to the colleagues who do your work while you are having a good day at the pub.’

“The rule for my kids was always not good enough to not play well enough in school. I feel the same about work,” wrote another viewer.

A fourth agreed: ‘If I’m sick and not at work, I stay at home BECAUSE I’m SICK, otherwise I’m healthy enough to go out, then I’m healthy enough to go to work.’

Barrister Jerry, 68, Uttlesford, said workers will abandon companies at a time when businesses are struggling after the pandemic

Barrister Jerry, 68, Uttlesford, said workers will abandon companies at a time when businesses are struggling after the pandemic

Thomas believes employers should trust and value their employees, but stresses that 'you can be sick for so many different reasons'

Thomas believes employers should trust and value their employees, but stresses that ‘you can be sick for so many different reasons’

Meanwhile, Thomas believes employers should trust and value their employees, saying that “you can be sick for so many different reasons.”

“It depends on what you’re sick for,” he said. “You can wake up in the morning and feel awful and then feel fine at night.”

“It’s so important, my employees are like superheroes,” he said. “I appreciate them so much and without my staff I don’t have a business and it’s so hard to get good staff so you have to take care of them.”

He added that he knows where to draw the line, saying: ‘If someone lied to me, if someone stole from me, they would be fired immediately.’

Several viewers agreed with Tom, saying it depends on why the individual employee has called in sick to work - with many praising him as a boss and insisting that employees are more likely to be loyal to their employers when treated 'honestly' in the workplace

Several viewers agreed with Tom, saying it depends on why the individual employee has called in sick to work – with many praising him as a boss and insisting that employees are more likely to be loyal to their employers when treated ‘honestly’ in the workplace

Several viewers agreed with Tom, saying it depends on why the individual employee has called in sick to work – with many praising him as a boss and insisting that employees are more likely to be loyal to their employers if they are treated ‘fairly’ in the workplace.

One said: ‘Good old fashioned common sense as always from Thomas Skinner who sees the value of good staff and even comes to drink with his staff member in the pub! What a totally refreshing attitude and respect for those who helped build his business.”

‘I wish Tom was my boss when I worked very honestly and believe in taking care of his staff,’ wrote another viewer.

A third said: ‘Thomas sounds like the perfect boss! He sounds like he has a heart and understands people. But hey, get the micky and you out! Love this man!’.

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