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Guy Sebastian said Westlife singer Shane Filan’s audience was full of ‘fat older feral women’

Guy Sebastian had been reluctant to support boy band star Shane Filan on a UK tour because the Westlife singer’s audience would be full of “wild fat women”.

Sebastian was concerned that his appearance on the tour would not be “suitable” for his style of music and the type of fans of the Irish singer.

The Australian Idol winner is testifying in the trial of his former agent Titus Day, who is accused of embezzling nearly $900,000. Day denies all the accusations against him.

Sebastian told Downing Central District Court in Sydney on Thursday that he had agreed to support Filan on his 2017 UK tour after expressing serious reservations to his manager.

Guy Sebastian had been reluctant to support boy band star Shane Filan on a UK tour because the Westlife singer's audience would be packed with

Guy Sebastian had been reluctant to support boy band star Shane Filan on a UK tour because the Westlife singer’s audience would be filled with “older fat wild women”. He appears in the photo with his wife Jules.

Sebastian was concerned that his appearance on Shane Filan's UK tour might not be

Sebastian was concerned that his appearance on Shane Filan’s UK tour was “not right” for his style of music and the Irish singer’s type of fans. Filan is pictured performing in 2019

In an email dated May 16, 2017, she wrote to Day: “I’m not trying to be picky but it’s a big investment and talking to Sammy who did a similar tour said they were all fat wild women.”

Sebastian said the words “fat older wild women” were later removed from his original email in a response from Day and he regretted using them.

“I said something that wasn’t very good, something about wild old women or something,” he said.

‘I said that, but it disappeared in Mr. Day’s response to me. In fact, he took it out. Sebastian later said, “It’s obviously not something I’m proud to say.”

Sebastian previously told the court that it had been “a pretty contentious point” between him and Day that he “wasn’t really getting any chance” to perform abroad.

“I was seeing other artists get some opportunities and I wanted to see my management try their best,” he said Wednesday.

“At that point we were both acknowledging that our relationship was on tenterhooks.”

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Titus Day has pleaded not guilty to 50 counts of embezzlement as an employee or servant, and 50 counts of alternative theft. He managed Guy Sebastian for a decade before the pair bitterly parted ways.

Filan was one of the two lead singers in Westlife, one of the biggest boy bands of all time, and had a successful solo career.

Sebastian had agreed to tour with Filan to increase his exposure in the UK market before he released an album there. He wasn’t going to get paid for his performances.

Before committing to the concerts, Sebastian expressed reservations about whether it was something he should do.

“I absolutely had some questions when it was introduced to me,” he said Thursday. ‘If it was the right tour and the right fit.’

At the time, Sebastian was making ‘very electronic’ music that he thought might not go down well with Filan’s audience: ‘Mr. Filan is a former boy band member.’

“I thought it would stand out compared to the main show,” he said.

Sebastian had planned not to complete the full tour as he would be attending his brother’s wedding. “There were some shows I was going to miss,” he said.

Sebastian has denied that he ever deliberately failed to tell his agent about a paid performance in order to deny him his 20 percent commission.

Sebastian has denied that he ever deliberately failed to tell his agent about a paid performance in order to deny him his 20 percent commission.

In the end, Sebastian played only about half of the booked performances, returning to Australia, leaving another backing singer, Matt Gresham, to take his place on the tour.

“There were many reasons why I chose to go home,” Sebastian said. “I was correct in my assertions that it was a poor fit.”

Sebastian said on Wednesday that he had also been struggling with mental health issues while on tour with Filan.

“I had gotten to a not-so-great place and the tour itself was an element of that,” he said.

Day pleaded not guilty to 50 counts of embezzlement as an employee or servant, and 50 counts of alternative theft.

Toomey has led Sebastian to several of the charges that The Voice’s coach acknowledged appeared to have been brought in error.

Day (left) and Sebastian (right) had worked together since 2007, four years after the singer won the first series of Australian Idol over Shannon Noll, another of Day's former clients.

Day (left) and Sebastian (right) had worked together since 2007, four years after the singer won the first series of Australian Idol over Shannon Noll, another of Day’s former clients.

A charge related to a $17,154.61 payment made to Day’s accounts for Sebastian’s services on July 4, 2014. Sebastian agreed to add that amount to a $121,651.20 payment made to Day four days later for a total of $138,805.81.

A day later, Day made a payment of $111,044.65 to Sebastian, exactly 80 percent of the $138,805.81 figure, and what would remain after Day took his commission.

Sebastian agrees that it seemed like he had been paid the money he was owed, saying he had “absolutely no desire” to see Day prosecuted for crimes he didn’t commit.

“If there are mistakes I will raise my hand, absolutely,” he said.

Another charge was based on $1,200 paid to Day’s account on December 19, 2014. Day received an additional $11,000 on December 22, and exactly 80 percent of those combined amounts were paid to Sebastian a week later.

Sebastian appears outside Downing Downtown District Court, where his former manager Titus Day's embezzlement trial has been plagued by delays, including the death of a judge.

Sebastian appears outside Downing Downtown District Court, where his former manager Titus Day’s embezzlement trial has been plagued by delays, including the death of a judge.

Asked if he had been paid the $1,200 Day was accused of embezzling, Sebastian said, “Yes, I would.”

“Based on what you’re presenting to me, it looks like the numbers add up,” he told the jury.

Sebastian has previously denied deliberately swindling Day by failing to state that he performed a gig at a car dealership for a fee of $30,000.

The singer said on Wednesday that he had performed a concert at Clintons Toyota in Gregory Hills, in south-west Sydney, on February 2, 2017.

He had previously bought a four-wheel drive Toyota from the Clintons and said it was possible he had told a reporter at the event that he would be performing for free.

Questioned by Day’s lawyer, Dominic Toomey SC, Sebastian said he was not sure he received the payment.

‘I can’t remember,’ he said. It may have been.

Guy Sebastian is a judge on The Voice Australia with (L to R) singers Rita Ora, Keith Urban and Jessica Mauboy

Guy Sebastian is a judge on The Voice Australia with (L to R) singers Rita Ora, Keith Urban and Jessica Mauboy

Sebastian said he would have told Day about the commitment and his manager would have been entitled to 20 percent of any performance fee.

Pressed on whether he would reveal a paid gig to Day in order to keep the commission, Sebastian adamantly denied that he would ever do such a thing.

“It absolutely would not have been an intention like that to keep anything, I guess there was some sort of payment made for the line of questioning…” he said.

“But there is definitely absolutely no reason why I would go to great lengths to hide any type of payment.”

Sebastian was shown financial records that recorded payments of $29,600 and $400 from Clinton’s Toyota made on January 25 and 27, respectively.

The Crown has claimed that Sebastian was underpaid by at least $886,175.10 per day in performance fees, royalties and an ambassadorial position between 2013 and 2020.

The Crown has claimed that Sebastian was underpaid by at least $886,175.10 per day in performance fees, royalties and an ambassadorial position between 2013 and 2020.

Asked if the sum of those two payments, $30,000, was his usual fee for one-off gigs, Sebastian said, “It varies, but that was a pretty common figure.”

Toomey suggested that Sebastian had not told Day that he had acted in the Clintons.

“Okay, but that wouldn’t have been intentional,” the singer replied.

Toomey further suggested that Sebastian had not paid Day his commission on the $30,000 fee.

“That wouldn’t have been intentional either,” Sebastian said. I don’t remember being paid that. Never, never was he even close to trying to con Mr. Day, ever.

And if that’s an isolated thing, I’ll look at it. I’m going to copy that. That’s obviously not cool.

The trial continues.

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