Fauci says COVID-19 numbers need to get ‘really, really bad’ before another national lockdown happens
Dr. Anthony Fauci admits Americans are ‘fatigued’ by COVID-19 restrictions and says numbers “ have to get really, really bad ” before calling for another national lockdown.
The infectious disease expert made the comments in a new 60 Minutes interview, set to air in full next Sunday.
Fauci’s proclamation comes despite the number of daily infections hitting its two-month high on Thursday, with more than 63,000 Americans testing positive for the coronavirus in the space of 24 hours.
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In a new 60 Minutes interview, Dr. Anthony Fauci admits that Americans are ‘fatigued’ by COVID-19 restrictions and says numbers need to get ‘really, really bad’ before he calls for another national lockdown.
In a preview clip of Fauci’s 60 Minutes interview, released Friday, CBS correspondent Jon LaPook asks the doctor what needs to be done before urging the government to put people back under house arrest.
“It should be very, very bad,” Fauci replied.
First of all, the country is tired of restrictions. That’s why we want to use public health measures, not to get in the way of opening the economy, but to be a safe gateway to the opening of the economy. ‘
He went on to say that Americans have more than two choices and don’t have to choose between a complete shutdown or an outright reopening of the economy.
Instead, he argues, Americans should take public health measures if they try to resume normal life, even with the threat of the virus linger.
“Let’s put down ‘shutdown’ and say, ‘We’re going to use public health measures to help us get safely where we want to go,'” he said.
On Friday, America surpassed more than 8 million COVID-19 infections. More than 218,000 civilians have died from the disease.
Daily infections hit a two-month high on Thursday, with more than 63,000 Americans testing positive for the coronavirus within 24 hours
Fauci has been advocating for public health measures – including social distancing and wearing a mask – for several months.
He has other experts who say those measures should be pushed aside so that the disease can spread to achieve herd immunity.
On Thursday, Fauci called that statement “ridiculous” when asked about the anti-lockdown Great Barrington Declaration published earlier this week.
The statement, prepared by experts from Oxford, Harvard and Stanford universities, calls for the protection of people most at risk of dying from Covid-19 while the rest of the population returns to normal life and eventually herd immunity.
Fauci told Good Morning America that parts of the statement are “ making fun of people ” because certain elements are unquestionably beneficial, including not wanting a second lockdown and the need to protect the vulnerable.
However, he argued that it hides the fact that 30 percent of the population has underlying health problems that make them more susceptible to the more serious consequences of the virus.
Dr Anthony Fauci argued Thursday that it is ‘ludicrous’ to have Covid-19 spread in the United States to achieve immunity to herds as infections in the United States hit a two-month high
“This idea that we have the power to protect the vulnerable is utter nonsense, because history has shown that we don’t,” Fauci said.
If you just let things rip and let go of the infection – no masks, hustle – that’s frankly ridiculous.
“What that will do is there will be so many people in the community who you cannot take care of, who you cannot protect, who will get sick and suffer serious consequences.
‘If you talk to someone who has experience in epidemiology and infectious diseases, they will tell you it is risky and you will end up with many more infections from vulnerable people, leading to hospitalizations and deaths.
“I think we should look that straight in the eye and say it’s bullshit.”
The statement, published Monday, has since been signed by more than 9,800 medical and public health scientists.
The scientists behind the statement have argued that those who are not vulnerable to Covid-19 should be able to resume life normally.
They say that better hygiene, such as hand washing and self-isolation for people who are sick, should continue for everyone, but that social detachment can be done away with.
The scientists argue that as the virus spreads through people with a low risk of death, the population will gradually build up immunity that will slow the spread of Covid-19 in the future.
The petition, which appears to be targeting both the US and the UK, was drafted in an effort to prevent the drastic lockdown measures used in the spring from returning as the weather cools.
THE AMAZING STATEMENT BY BARRINGTON
Who drew up the Great Barrington Declaration?
The statement was written by Dr. Martin Kulldorff (Harvard University), Dr. Sunetra Gupta (Oxford University) and Dr. Jay Bhattacharya (Stanford University).
What does the statement say?
“As infectious disease epidemiologists and public health scientists, we are deeply concerned about the adverse physical and mental health effects of prevailing Covid-19 policies, and recommend an approach we call Focused Protection.
‘We come from the left and right and from all over the world and have dedicated our careers to protecting people. The current lockdown policy has devastating short- and long-term consequences for public health.
The results (just to name a few) include lower vaccination coverage in children, worsening cardiovascular outcomes, fewer cancer screenings, and deteriorating mental health – leading to greater excess mortality in the coming years, with the working class and younger members of society. Keeping students out of school is a great injustice.
‘Maintaining these measures until a vaccine is available will cause irreparable damage, disproportionately harming the disadvantaged.
Fortunately, our understanding of the virus is growing. We know that the vulnerability to death from Covid-19 is more than a thousand times higher in the elderly and the sick than in the young. Indeed, Covid-19 is less dangerous for children than many other harmful substances, including the flu.
As immunity in the population increases, the risk of infection for everyone – including the vulnerable – decreases. We know that all populations will eventually achieve herd immunity – the point where the number of new infections is stable – and that this can be supported by (but not dependent on) a vaccine. Our goal, therefore, should be to minimize mortality and social damage until we achieve immunity to the herd.
The most compassionate approach that balances the risks and benefits of achieving herd immunity is to allow those at minimal risk of death to live normally, building immunity to the virus through natural infection, while the highest risk. We call this targeted protection.
Taking steps to protect the vulnerable should be the central goal of the public health response to Covid-19. For example, nursing homes should use staff with acquired immunity and regularly perform PCR tests on other staff and all visitors. Rotation of personnel should be kept to a minimum. Retirees living at home must have groceries and other supplies delivered to their homes. If possible, they should meet with relatives outside instead of inside. A comprehensive and detailed list of measures, including approaches for multi-generational households, can be implemented and is well within the reach and capabilities of public health professionals.
Those who are not vulnerable should be able to immediately resume life as usual. Simple hygiene measures, such as washing hands and staying home sick, should be used by everyone to lower the herd’s immunity threshold. Schools and universities must be open to personal education. Extracurricular activities, such as sports, should be resumed. Young, low-risk adults should work normally rather than at home.
‘Restaurants and other businesses should open. Art, music, sports and other cultural activities must be resumed. People at higher risk are allowed to participate if they wish, while society as a whole enjoys the protections afforded to the vulnerable by those who have built up herd immunity. ‘
View the full petition at The website of the Great Barrington Declaration.