Cardinal George Pell refutes allegations that he was trying to bribe a victim of pedophile priest Gerald Ridsdale.
David Ridsdale, the cousin of Australia's worst pedophile priest, said during a royal commission on child abuse on Wednesday that he told Cardinal Pell in 1993 about the abuse caused by his uncle.
Cardinal Pell, who is a friend of the family, issued a statement later that evening, denying that such a conversation ever took place and expresses regret at the misunderstanding between the couple.
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Cardinal George Pell (photo) is said to have bribed the cousin of the worst Australia pedophile priest Gerald Ridsdale
Mr. Ridsdale told the investigation that Cardinal Pell asked him: & # 39; I want to know what it takes to keep you still. & # 39;
Mr. Ridsdale said that Cardinal Pell then began to talk about his growing family and that he would soon have to buy a car or house.
He said his reaction was & # 39; fuck George and everything you stand for & # 39 ;.
Cardinal Pell said the issue had to be answered immediately because it was important to correct the record, especially given & # 39; the false and misleading headlines & # 39 ;.
& # 39; I have never tried to bribe David Ridsdale or his family or to offer financial incentives to remain silent & # 39 ;, the statement said.
& # 39; At the time of our discussion, the police were already aware of allegations against Gerald Ridsdale and were investigating. Then and now I supported these police investigations. & # 39;
& # 39; I was and remain very sympathetic to David Ridsdale who was terribly assaulted because of his uncle & he said.
& # 39; I continue to regret the misunderstanding between us. & # 39;
The royal commission revealed ecclesiastical documents showing that Cardinal Pell helped Ridsdale move between parishes at the height of his terror government.
But Cardinal Pell knew that he had never moved Ridsdale anywhere.
& # 39; I would never have agreed or participated in a decision to transfer Gerard Ridsdale knowing that he had abused children, and I did not do that, & he said.
David Ridsdale (photo) gave up during the royal commission Wednessay that in 1993 he told on the phone that his uncle had been abusing him from an early age
Cardinal Pell reportedly said to David Risdale: & # 39; I want to know what it takes to keep you still & # 39; when he told him he was being abused by his uncle Gerard Risdale (left)
After he hung up, Mr. Ridsdale said he told his sisters about the phone call.
& # 39; I remember telling both of my sisters, "The bastard was just trying to bribe me & # 39 ;, & # 39; Mr. Ridsdale told the hearing of the Royal Commission in Ballarat.
& # 39; I never said that Pell offered me anything specific or tangible in our conversation, only that his attempts to lead the conversation along a certain path made me very suspicious of his motivations and what he was insinuating. & # 39;
After this phone call, Mr. Ridsdale decided to call Bentleigh Police Station, the ABC reported.
& # 39; They said someone would answer my call … about an hour later the police answered my call and said: & # 39; Do you know that your uncle would be charged later today? & # 39 ;, & # 39; He said.
He said he had told the police that he was not aware and then went to the station for a long and & # 39; ultra-specific & # 39; interview about his traumatic youth trial.
The next day, Gerald Ridsdale was charged with dejected attacks on David Ridsdale and several other boys.
Commission President Justice Peter McClellan says that Cardinal Pell has to make a statement about the allegations.
Church President Peter Gray SC said that Cardinal Pell has publicly and repeatedly said that he has remembered the conversation with him Mr. Ridsdale is very different.
Justice McClellan said he expected commissioners one find about what Cardinal Pell was told.
Mr. Ridsdale said that Cardinal Pell (photo) began to talk about his growing family and that he would soon have to buy a car or house
Mr. Ridsdale described the years of abuse that began when he was 11 years old on the farm of a parishioner in Edenhope during the school holidays.
He said from that moment that his uncle took every opportunity to engage in sexual interaction with me & # 39; until he was 15 years old.
He then went to explain the the & # 39; charismatic & # 39; priest was considered the & # 39; shining light & # 39; on his father's side of the family.
"As a priest, Gerald held an almost supernatural level of power in our family and exercised much control over the family," he said.
& # 39; He was treated as better than his siblings and made almost full use of his superior status. & # 39;
David (photo) said that his reaction to Cardinal Pell & # 39; f *** you George and everything you stand for & # 39; is
Another abuse victim, BAV, told the committee that after he was abused by Ridsdale in a bedroom in the Ballarat presbytery, Cardinal Pell, who also lived there, came home.
& # 39; I saw Father Pell's back but didn't know if he saw me and Father Ridsdale, & # 39; said EGM.
Cardinal Pell has previously denied Mr. Green told him about the abuse, after the claims were made in the media.
Cardinal Pell said in 2002: & # 39;At a distance of 28 years I can't remember such a & # 39; n memory. If I was approached and considered the stories plausible, I would have informed the Christian brothers.& # 39;
Dowlan, 65, was sentenced in March to serving at least three years in prison for six years for the dejected assault of 20 boys under his care at Victorian schools in the 1970s and 1980s.
The royal commission revealed ecclesiastical documents showing that Cardinal Pell helped move Ridsdale (photo) between parishes at the height of his terror government
Cardinal Pell was named to the committee this week by several witnesses who claimed he was aware of the widespread abuse in Ballarat while he was a priest in the city in the 1970s.
A victim of abuse told the committee that Pell ignored him and walked out after being told that a Christian brother was harassing children.
Timothy Green, 53, said that he then told Father Pell that Brother Edward Vernon Dowlan was the abuse of boys at Ballarat & # 39; s St Patrick & # 39; s College in late 1974.
& # 39; I said it brother Dowlan is touching little boys, & # 39; Mr. Green said on Wednesday.
& # 39; Father Pell said & # 39; don't be ridiculous & # 39; and walked away. & # 39; Mr. Green, who said he was 12 or 13 when he told Cardinal Pell, was himself the victim of Dowlan.
& # 39; Father Pell has not asked any questions. He didn't say what you mean, or how could you say that, & he said.
& # 39; He just sent it away and ran away.
& # 39; His response gave me the impression that he knew about brother Dowlan but can't do anything about it or would do anything about it. & # 39;
& # 39; I remember telling both of my sisters, "The bastard was just trying to bribe me & # 39 ;, & # 39; Mr. Ridsdale told the hearing of the Royal Commission in Ballarat
The former Archbishop of Melbourne, now based in the Vatican, where he oversees the finances of the Catholic Church, was involved in at least one decision to move the pervert priest after hearing the investigation.
Then Ballarat Bishop Ronald Mulkearns knew that Ridsdale had abused boys so he was removed from there & moved to another parish, the Royal Abuse Commission heard hearings destroyed in the city on the opening day of three weeks decades of abuse.
Cardinal Pell supported Ridsdale in his first appearance of the court on child sex offenses in 1993, but he has repeatedly denied that all children in the parish of Ballarat were abused while working there.
Senior counselor assisting the Gail Furness SC committee said moving Ridsdale from a Ballarat parish was discussed at a meeting of the bishop's counselors – the College of Consultants – in September 1982, where Cardinal Pell was present.
The minutes state that the bishop advised that it was necessary for Ridsdale to get rid of the parish church of Mortlake, but do not disclose the reasons the bishop gave Mulkearns.
& # 39; There will be indications that Bishop Mulkearns knew it was because Ridsdale had abused boys in Mortlake, and that he had insulted himself in this way in 1975, & # 39; Furness said.
& # 39; I remember saying to both of my sisters: & # 39; the bastard just tried to buy me & # 39 ;, & # 39; Ridsdale said to the Royal Commission in Ballarat
Cardinal Pell was named to the committee this week by several witnesses claiming to be aware of the widespread abuse in Ballarat while he was a priest in the city in the 1970s
Ridsdale will testify from prison via video link during the three-week Ballarat hearing, while a cousin he has abused will be one of the 17 victims who testify.
It was not until June 1988 that Ridsdale was suspended for 12 months, 13 years after the bishop Mulkearns first knew that he sexually abused boys he met while working as a priest.
Ridsdale had been in nine parishes and other church locations at that time and mistreated more than 50 children, Furness said.
In May 1993, Ridsdale was sued by summons with 30 counts of indecent attacks against nine boys between 1974 and 1980. He was found guilty and sentenced to 12 months in prison.
After he was found guilty, he was almost immediately re-tried for the sexual abuse of 20 boys and a girl.
He was found guilty of 46 charges and sentenced to 18 years in prison with a minimum of 15 years to be served cumulatively with the previous sentence.
In 2006, Ridsdale pleaded guilty to 35 charges of assaulting 10 boys. In 2013, he pleaded guilty to 29 new charges after being charged with 84 offenses.
Risdale has been behind bars since his arrest in 1990.
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