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An Oath Keeper Talks Civil War Over Pastrami and Rye

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An Oath Keeper Talks Civil War Over Pastrami and Rye

But Arroyo said it’s “very likely” that if Trump loses, “the right, the Republican Party and some crazy people will get together and start a shooting war.”

Hours earlier on Zoom, Arroyo was speaking with members of other county preparedness teams from around the country and told WIRED there was only one thing on everyone’s minds.

“The main concern right now is the possibility of civil unrest due to the elections,” Arroyo said. “Whoever wins, one side will be angry, and the other, the radical left side, will be angrier and they are best known for burning cities to the ground when they don’t get their way. “The right-wing conservative party in this country is not known for doing that kind of thing.” (When WIRED weighed in and asked about the Capitol riot, for example, Arroyo dismissed it, claiming it was orchestrated by the left.)

Instead of participating, his advice to his members is to hunker down.

Arroyo also raised the possibility of “black swan”events, which have become a popular fantasy among conspiracy theorists. A black swan event is one that has a large effect and could not have been predicted, but which, in retrospect, appears to have been inevitable; Conspirators now treat the term as a cousin of the “false flag,” defining it as an extreme event orchestrated by nefarious forces to distract attention from a sinister plot. “They want to get him (Trump) out so he can’t return to the White House,” Arroyo said. “To create an environment where they can declare martial law, create a scenario, some kind of “Black Swan” event to stop the elections.”

Jim and Janet Arroyo moved from California to Yavapai County in the early 2000s to escape what they considered overly restrictive gun laws.

In Arizona, they found a state much more in line with their gun needs.

“This is a great gun culture. “Arizona has the most privately owned machine guns in the country,” Arroyo boasts. “Yavapai County has the most machine guns in the state of Arizona. “That’s our claim to fame.”

(TO ATF 2021 Report shows that Arizona didn’t even rank among the top ten states for machine gun ownership in the US, and California’s ownership was significantly higher).

But just as Arroyo was bragging about Arizona’s welcoming treatment of guns, the bartender approached him and told him he wasn’t allowed to have his gun at the bar. Arroyo told him that he was not drinking, but the waiter insisted. “No problem,” Arroyo said, and took the gun to his jeep.

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